Tuesday, May 09, 2006

To Reiterate and Remind

In recalling the course of events that have transpired and the resulting enlightenment, below are parting words on the past several months that shine a light on the situation.

Good night and talley-ho.

Robyn John

From the Forum in the Chestnut Hill Local. Editorial [Local, 11/10/05]

Local Perseverance

You may have noticed that your Local arrived late this week, not because of Veterans' Day, but due to a community meeting held at the Chestnut Hill Library on Monday, Nov. 7 at 7 pm that we wanted to give front page coverage. The staff attended Monday's meeting in support of the Local and to listen to what the community and the CHCA has to say in light of current events that have been creating division and concern within this community.

Recently, we, the staff, have voiced our concerns to the public and to the Chestnut Hill Community Association. We've made our statements and shown our truths. I believe throughout all the drama that has been associated with the CHCA and the Local that something good can and will come out of this. All concerned must have patience and understanding before finding any solutions.

This paper is the community voice, no matter who sits in the editor's chair. The Local has become of the most respected sources of information for a variety of people across Northwest Philadelphia and the country. It was created and established and it will continue. Yet, in contradiction, that can't happen if we can't agree on how to manage this paper. What we need here is respect, attention and clear lines of communication. It is up to you, the community, whether or not we, as a staff, can continue to work for you. Please continue your support.

In reflection, we've lost a few good people, we've stated our cases and we've picked our battles. It's now time to pick up the pieces that are left over and start something new with what remains. As for the staff of the Chestnut Hill Local, this has been a character building experience that, I hope, will stay in the many minds for years to come.

Thank you, Chestnut Hill, for all of your help, concerns, involvement, and most of all, your letters.

Robyn John
Production Manager
Chestnut Hill Local


Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is what you get,Chestnut Hill, when you don't take ownership:

Robyn freakin John, the voice of reason, the mother hen of angry boys, the arbiter of your print placement.

Robyn, go celebrate with another piercing. How about a safety pin for the lips?

You were an embarassment to the rest of us on Tuesday, all puffed up about "your" big win. We don't want a crusade, we just want to do our jobs.

you go girl...please?

Wed May 10, 11:13:00 AM EDT  
Anonymous Scott Alloway said...

Speak for yourself, anonymous responder to Robyn's comment.

What the hell are you talking about? Robyn and the entire staff of the Local were working very hard to get a paper out. This puffery you delude yourself about wasn't in the Local office.

Embarassment? Check the statement by Maxine in the May 11 issue of the Local about the current situation -- "I guess people perceived a crisis that was not there." That's an embarassment when we look at the problems CHCA faces because of the board's failure of vision. I must say, however, that her observation that "as a board, we did a monumental amount of work" is on the mark. The salvage operation will take a long time.

As for Carol Cope's saying in the same story she does not see the vote "as a mandate for change," that's absurd all by itself.

So, anaonymous, if you're going to criticize people, have the courage to sign your name. And at the very least, choose to discuss policy and service delvery; Henry D. and his cohort have already cornered the market on innuendo, personal vendettas and bad writing.

Wed May 10, 12:29:00 PM EDT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Carol, and Carolyn for that matter. Have another drin-drin.

Wed May 10, 12:50:00 PM EDT  
Anonymous robyn "freakin" john said...

Piercing is so 1996 and safety pins are so circa 1982.

its just ridiculous to even respond to that blog comment.

be stupid and look stupid. you should have a tshirt that says that.

Wed May 10, 05:32:00 PM EDT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Robyn, Scott and all Local employees who have been mistreated by the CHCA, thank you for hanging tight. We owe you. There may be 19 new Board members that can help matters but the problems aren't solved yet.

One new Board member who doesn't see the election as a mandate treated the Board with disdain when she was president. Instead of serving the Board she bypassed them whenever possible and even presented a view to the Phila. Zoning Board in opposition to a Board vote without letting them know she was not representing the Board.

I am proud of Chestnut Hillers who have held themselves out in this election to serve the community and of those many who voted demonstrating a desire to correct the mess. To say this isn't a mandate is to declare that you will obstruct the attempt to repair the damage that has been done.

I am disappointed that one of the founders of the CHCA failed to be elected and also that a competent treasurer was not reelected.

In balance, however, I am pleased that Chestnut Hillers came through. I can't help but think that the responsibility for the current situation rests with people like me who were asleep at the switch while our organization was being dismantled. I pray the new Board can get us back on track quickly.

I am signing as anonymous to avoid the Phone mafia.

Wed May 10, 05:34:00 PM EDT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scott, your spelling is atrocious for a former editor. You petty blowhard & trailer-park statesman. We were speaking for ourselves, and Carol, Carolyn and Carole are not any of us. Robyn, her ego and her body art are nothing of import in this office. And don't lecture us on the well worn use of "anonymous", you freaking idiot.

Wed May 10, 05:56:00 PM EDT  
Anonymous Scott Alloway said...

It was not my post that addressed Carol, Carole or Carolyn. That belonged to someone else.

My spelling is terrible half the time, lousy the rest of the time.

No trailer parks. Camps, maybe.

Blowhard? Probably.

Please continue to speak for yourselves. And keep those cards and letters handy.

Hugs & kisses,


Wed May 10, 06:15:00 PM EDT  
Anonymous Employee of the Month said...

"Robyn, her ego and her body art are nothing of import in this office."

obviously, i'm replaceable.

MY Ego serves me well. i know who i am and where i can go with what i have.

MY body art is a mere expression of who i am. you don't like it, i don't care.


i'll collect that unemployment check if that's the case. i'll look for a new job. i'll get a better deal out of it, don't worry. life doesn't scare me.

win-win scenario eh?

but here's a better idea. YOU go, whoever YOU are, YOU don't belong in the atmosphere that we employees have created. YOU'RE the one who is not IMPORTANT to who we are as a whole.

I actually like the people i work with.

Wed May 10, 11:14:00 PM EDT  
Anonymous hardworker said...

Robyn, you get paid to produce not pontificate. A little less noise and little more production would be good for everyone, even you.
The Local is not your paper, it's your employer.


Thu May 11, 08:58:00 AM EDT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who's willing to bet hardworker doesn't even have a job? Shut up you little bitch and go do something constructive.

Thu May 11, 02:53:00 PM EDT  
Anonymous lil b said...

I not only have a job, I do my job. You should try it sometime.

lil b

Thu May 11, 10:30:00 PM EDT  
Anonymous R. said...

it must be rip on robyn day.


you can keep goin, i really don't mind the negative criticism of whatever it was that set this off.

if you have any further comments on how i 'produce,' i'm at my desk M-F or you can email me at production@chestnuthilllocal.com, if you can do that.

Thu May 11, 11:39:00 PM EDT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey...lil b. B for bitch who can't spell. You mean, Li'l b. I'd love to try your job. What do you do? Professional jackass? Bet I am even better at it than you.
If you'd like to SEE Robyn do her work, go into the Local and watch her. I'm sure you'd like to watch... you're so clever.

Fri May 12, 01:20:00 PM EDT  
Blogger Waylaid Pilgrim said...

Let's look at what has happened in this discourse, which started out as a reiteration of a November editorial and became one person's personal obsession with a graphic artist's personality and employment.

A little name calling, a response, more name calling, a reponse, a lecture, a defensive posture and a concluding name calling.

Does LB work at the Local? Not from what we can identify. Remember, when one posts anonymously it doesn't mean your IP isn't available to blogspot. For example, here are some recent visitors:;; Techies know what these are.

In addition, some posters have made serious threats and charges -- a number of these have not appeared because of their content. That's not playing by the rules.

But most importantly, this most recent series of exchanges merely reflects the quality of today's national discourse.

As an example, we submit the following overview of a Fox News broadcast:

"The Dow was down 120 points today, prompting Fox News’ David Ruder to suggest it was because USA Today made 'the country less safe' by running its story on NSA’s data mining.

But Fox News host Brenda Butler disagreed, saying that Wall Street would 'not going to let some puny, little traitor, some leaker who went ahead and compromised our national security, take down this, take down our market, take down our country.'"

Quality dicussion? Civility? Open dialogue?

None of that.

It appears the conversation in Chestnut Hill fares no better. And that, friends, is sad.

You may continue to post, but the object lesson is complete. The messages will be civil or they will not appear.

Fri May 12, 08:41:00 PM EDT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you, Mr. Lombardi. The comments regarding Robyn seem to fall clearly into the "flame" or "egregious comment" category. --Glad to hear you will be editing with a heavier hand.

Sat May 13, 02:10:00 PM EDT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I didn't write the comments about Ms. John, and I don't agree with featuring all this office catfight fur in the pages of the Notebook.

Especially at a time when you have major seismic rumblings about what the "new" CHCA Board is going to do after the SOC victory . . . One thing that's clear is that the Granny Caucus has already won a major internecine battle by shelving the loud, ethnic Ed Feldman, useful to the smoother, sneakier SOC pols as an early goad and rabble rouser against the Max/Axis, but now seen as a source of embarrassment in the calmer air of "victory."
Feldman gave this loose SOC group intellectual muscle and talking points as strategic schematics which they used in their recent firefight. And now he's being abandoned by all the "rational", "reasonable" types. No vice-presidencies or chairs for Ed. And not one SOC friend to stand up for him . . . just the same shrugging, laissez faire comfortable "sophistication"
that marks the Hill for what it truly is.

John Lombardi 5/15

Mon May 15, 01:39:00 PM EDT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The blog signed "John Lombardi 5/15" doesn't sound like Mr. Lombardi. Did Lombardi post this?

Sat May 20, 07:08:00 PM EDT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yep. It was me. But I was having a bad hair day.
John Lombardi 5/24

Wed May 24, 01:42:00 PM EDT  

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